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My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-15-2023 01:19 PM
by Wayne Pierce
After many years of updated FS programs my old Controllers, (14 years), were worn out and would not give me control of the aircraft I was using. This years tax return was enough for me to purchase a new set of controllers. I bought the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke and the Beta Throttle. It took me a long time to figure out how to program them with my cockpit, but finally figured it out. So that means I am back in the skies again.

For those who do not know my cockpit is a home built one patterned after a WW2 B-17. I use several different interface systems to actuate the FS aircrafts operations using real toggle switches, buttons, autopilot and radio controls.

The built in switches and buttons on the controls I do not use as they are not needed. I can change out the throttle arrangements for GA aircraft and up to 4 throttle jets or Props. Those levers are included with the controller. The pictures set up is for my PMDG B738.

Anyway, here is what they look like installed.
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Thanks for viewing. Wayne

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-15-2023 05:25 PM
by Michael Blakely
Drool drool drool.
That's a great setup Wayne!

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-16-2023 01:29 AM
by Theodore Martin
This is a great setup, almost as good as your trains. So, one question. You say you can accommodate a four engine setup. Since your pic shows a throttle quadrant for a two-engine a/c, how do you change to a 4-engine setup? Is there an add-on module providing two more throttles or do you swap out the throttle section?

I looked at their website and it does not provide a lot of detail.

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-16-2023 08:54 AM
by Wayne Pierce
Ted,
The web site doesn't show the levers. In small print is says there are more levers included to change out the CFG. There are 6 slots to push on/pull off the levers. There are up to four jet throttle levers, and a set of GA levers, throttle, pitch, mixture. They pull off/push of very easily. There are rubber covers to go over the unused slots which protect the electronics and help keep the internals cleaner, and it looks neater.

I purchased mine from the Honeycomb web site directly instead of from a 3rd party vendor. The Home office is here in San Diego BTW. I received them in a couple of days, not that they were shipped from here. After I purchased them the web site then said it was out of stock. I guess I bought what they had. Amazon had them a little less expensive. But with my setup and not using the CFGs for the controllers I do not have the panel lights for the operations. Personal SFGs negate any lights showing.

They operate very smoothly.
:-)

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-16-2023 12:02 PM
by Harold Henderson
Looks good, Wayne.

I'm still getting along with my Saitek ProFlight yoke, but if I ever need to replace it, it will probably be with the Honeycomb yoke. The Saitek yoke has a large enough flat space on top that I can put my keyboard there and type. Is there enough flat area on top the Honeycomb yoke to do that?

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-16-2023 01:53 PM
by Wayne Pierce
Nope. It is a half round, circle, arc, crooked straight line, etc..
The Yoke and the Throttle fit exactly in the space I took out the old controls. Maybe some bubble gum to hold the keyboard on top.
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WLP

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-16-2023 10:47 PM
by Theodore Martin
Wayne Pierce wrote: 02-16-2023 08:54 AM Ted,
The web site doesn't show the levers. In small print is says there are more levers included to change out the CFG. There are 6 slots to push on/pull off the levers. There are up to four jet throttle levers, and a set of GA levers, throttle, pitch, mixture. They pull off/push of very easily. There are rubber covers to go over the unused slots which protect the electronics and help keep the internals cleaner, and it looks neater.

I purchased mine from the Honeycomb web site directly instead of from a 3rd party vendor. The Home office is here in San Diego BTW. I received them in a couple of days, not that they were shipped from here. After I purchased them the web site then said it was out of stock. I guess I bought what they had. Amazon had them a little less expensive. But with my setup and not using the CFGs for the controllers I do not have the panel lights for the operations. Personal SFGs negate any lights showing.

They operate very smoothly.
:-)
Thanks Wayne. That explains why I couldn't see the extra slots needed for 4-engine operations. My joystick just recently started having problems with the throttle control. I took it apart and cleaned the variable resistor as best I could and it's now working, but I can't calibrate it to get the simulator a/c engines to be at total idle when I move the throttle on the joystick to idle. This happened once before and I had to play around with the sensitivity. I've turned the sensitivity up to 75% now and it appears to be doing better.

Just like Harold I'm still using my Saitek petals but I'm starting to look at replacements for my joystick (Thrustmaster T.1600M). Right now I'm torn between a yoke or another joystick. My problem is that I move my joystick out the way when I'm not flying so I can do other things on my computer (no dedicated flight station). Since the yoke has to be clamped to the table top it will be a pain to keep moving it back and forth. However, I'm thinking of getting into auto sim racing and the yoke would work for that. I'll have to do some more research to come up with the best option.

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-21-2023 09:27 AM
by Arturo Carvajal
Looks good Wayne

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 02-24-2023 04:40 PM
by Rey Ramon
Awesome Sauce! I'm jealous!

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 11-27-2023 08:06 AM
by Harold Henderson
Harold Henderson wrote: 02-16-2023 12:02 PM Looks good, Wayne.

I'm still getting along with my Saitek ProFlight yoke, but if I ever need to replace it, it will probably be with the Honeycomb yoke. The Saitek yoke has a large enough flat space on top that I can put my keyboard there and type. Is there enough flat area on top the Honeycomb yoke to do that?
Found a solution for placing the keyboard on top of the Alpha yoke.

Video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB70DGJA26Q

Product here - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077B9W343

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 12-01-2023 01:29 PM
by Wayne Pierce
Thanks for posting Scott and welcome to our VA.
It took quite awhile to get the assignments for MSFS with the Honey Comb, but have it dialed in. One has to make different cfg's in the progam for what you fly; 2engine prop; 4 engine prop; 2 engine jet; 4 engine jet; PMDG jet; etc. Just change the levers and away you go. I do not use the Honey Comb hardware Auto pilot for a couple of reasons; Its really hard to see the front of the controller from my pilots chair, It is dark and not lit and it doesn't translate to all aircraft even with the cfg set up.
Thanks

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 12-07-2023 01:02 PM
by Rey Ramon
So last spring I purchased new controllers too. I went with the Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke and the Honeycomb Bravo Throttle quadrant. Love it. I just need some rudder pedals. When I enough saved up I plan on purchasing the MFG Crosswind V3 Pedals. Compared to big named pedals they are less expensive, and get excellent reviews. I'll probably upgrade them to use the hydraulic damper as well. Plus I like his story on how he got started. Check them out... https://mfg-sim.com/en/

All that being said, Wayne one suggestion to get a little more immersion out of your throttle quadrant. I stumbled across a vendor on Etsy who sells levers for the throttle quadrant. I got the 737 and love them. He just released the Pro version (version 2.0) and I want to upgrade to them. May just get the whole 7x7 line up, and maybe the airbus....and maybe the MD80. Costs adds up so maybe not, but some day. Here is a link:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/FlightSimFactory?ref=usf_2020

Re: My new FS Controls !!

Posted: 12-07-2023 01:04 PM
by Rey Ramon
...and I just purchased the simworks studios PC12. Messaged flightsimfactory if he was planning on getting PC12 version out and he said it's in the works. If not I'm sure the GA setup would work.